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  PUT YOUR NAMES HERE

  by Rex B13 in

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  hi gang,.

  man, what a brouhaha we have going on now, eh?

  i wonder if all could please reply to this post with your list of log-on names.

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  >That's me, sweet, simple Julie.

  I agree wholeheartedly......xoxoxoxox
  Rex
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  Monkey trial

  by moman in

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  it seems this whole debate, (creation v/s evolution) iz coming to the fore again, along with (religion v/s state) debate.

  my sister iz a producer for pbs & haz a documentary coming up on the scopes or (monkey trial), & i think little haz changed.. i am non-religious, but i can't help laughing when arguements are made claiming man & monkeys share common ansesters, although a few individuals on my wifes side make me wonder.

  i am not saying, i have the answers, but man iz just so radicaly different from animals!

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  Hey Rem,
  You might like to take note that the famous 'ancestor' of ours used in the scopes trial as an example was a scientific yarn spun from a single tooth, a swine's tooth at that! LOL
  You might also enjoy the forty year farce of the Piltdown Man, who was a cobbled together skull....God has a sense of humor too, eh? It took scientists forty years to figure it out.
  Rex
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  To: Rev B / Trinity vs Salvation

  by Amazing in

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  hi rev b: you stated on my other thread that belief in the trinity is necessary for salvation in christendom.

  not so.. i can go into almost any church and say that i am christian, believe in jesus christ as my personal savior, and will be accepted as such, without any comment or need to discuss the trinity.

  i can even say that i don't accept the trinity, or literal hellfire, etc., and will still be accepted.. where the difference is, if i try to join that specific church as an official member with voting rights on church business, or hold an office of deacon, elder, or pastor, then a christian church will often require acceptance of the trinity for membership ... but not for salvation.

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  Bil chirped:
  >Don't expect me to have any interest in checking out your protestant sides. I have 'been there' you see and it's very uninspiring.

  You also might have to face reality.
  Rex
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  A Socialist defends Americans

  by Rex B13 in

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  for all of the anti-american cynics in range, here is a commentary from one of your own that plays a different tune, albeit a socialist one.

  do any of our regulars sound much like this woman named 'raven', cited in the article?

  (btw, i read the whole article).

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  Seeker,
  That last post was absolutely stupid and irresponsible. You are still in the 'slander all other faiths' mode of the Watchtower.
  Rex
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  Refuting (some of) Yardirf's Nonsense

  by Rex B13 in

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  ...and raised us up with him, and seated us with him in the heavenly places, in christ jesus... -eph.

  rev.

  he doesn't go out of love for new york, for he knows nothing about the place.

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  >The difference between protestantism and true apostolic faith which the WT applies quit often (but definetly not always) is that such a faith is based on the whole Bible. That's both the OT and the NT, and by the NT not only the Gospels but all of it.
  Protestantism tries to neglect the requirements of those going to heaven and call them exagerations, they are not, the saints gives everything to God;

  Nonsense. Unproven assertion.

  >1 Corinthians 6:10 - nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.
  1 Corinthians 6:9 - Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts,
  1 Corinthians 6:10 - nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.

  None of which have anything to do with the subject.

  >Phil 3:18For many walk, of whom I told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 3:19whose end is perdition, whose god is the belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. 3:20For our citizenship is in heaven; whence also we wait for a Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 3:21who shall fashion anew the body of our humiliation, that it may be conformed to the body of his glory, according to the working whereby he is able even to subject all things unto himself. (ASV)
  The people Paul speaks of here were all believers. But some of them didn't fit up.

  NONE of us 'fit up' since we are all imperfect. (Rom. 3.23; 6.23) All who believe on Him and repent of our sins, asking Christ to be the Lord of our lives will be covered by His sacrifice (John 3.3; 3.16,18; 14.6, Eph. 2.8,9, Rom. 10.9-11).

  >The saints are to drink the cup of Christ's pain on earth;
  Matthew 20:20 Then the mother of the sons of Zeb'edee came up to him, with her sons, and kneeling before him she asked him for something. 21 And he said to her, "What do you want?" She said to him, "Command that these two sons of mine may sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your kingdom." 22 But Jesus answered, "You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I am to drink?" They said to him, "We are able." 23 He said to them, "You will drink my cup, but to sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father."
  Hebrews 11:35 - Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: (KJV)

  Which is specific to the apostles in the first case; all except John died as a martyr and He they tried to kill. None of this applies to the subject.

  >Matt 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man would come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 16:25For whosoever would save his life shall lose it: and whosoever shall lose his life for my sake shall find it. 16:26For what shall a man be profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and forfeit his life? or what shall a man give in exchange for his life? 16:27For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then shall he render unto every man according to his deeds. 16:28Verily I say unto you, there are some of them that stand here, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

  None of this applies.

  >They get rewarded rich for their labour;
  Eph 1:3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ: 1:4even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: 1:5having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 1:6to the praise of the glory of his grace, which he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved: (ASV)

  Which proves the doctrine of 'eternal salvation', once one is called, one is justified and when justified, is glorified. God's will is not thwarted.
  
  >1 Corinthians 6:3 - Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, matters pertaining to this life! (RSV)
  Revelation 20:4 - Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom judgment was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

  None of which disputes Randy's essay.

  >Revelation 20:6 - Blessed and holy is he who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.
  Only God can elect these saints. It wouldn't surprise me if a great deal among those that expect to become saint do not become so and vice versa. Now Rex's hope goes only to those that believe and happen to hear, in his world billions are tormented in hell as we speak.

  Ditto above.

  >The Bible goes further;
  1 Corinthians 15:21 - For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead (RSV)
  1 John 2:2 and he is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for the whole world.

  Those who accept.....
  
  >1 Tim 4:10 For to this end we labor and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of them that believe.

  Which you just proved here.....

  >When Adam, allowed by God, fell in Genesis 3, he died and so did his children. Death is in our veins. But through Jesus, a resurrection have been provided. God, who sees and knows all past present and future, wants the humanrace to have the opportunity to do wrong BUT the will to do right.

  No scriptural backing here.

  >1 Samuel 2:6 The LORD kills and brings to life; he brings down to Sheol and raises up.
  John 5:29 - and come forth, those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment
  The resurrection of life is the one the saints get in Rev 20:6.

  Heavenly reward!

  >The rest get a resurrection of judgment, not life, and ON EARTH. Therefor they are still death.

  Nope, ETERNAL DEATH, which is hell. Jesus preached extensively on this.....

  >Revelation 20:5 - The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection.
  Then the trial where satan is kept looked up for 1.000 years. The billions will have oppurtunity to get life here, in world with no satan and no inherited sin to poison their surroundings, and those that fail will die the 2nd death, no resurrection (rest of Rev 20). After this, heaven will come down to the (new) earth.

  LOL, where did you get this idea? No scriptural backing again.

  >Jeremiah 31:29 - In those days they shall no longer say: 'The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge.'
  Jeremiah 31:30 - But every one shall die for his own sin; each man who eats sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge
  So, the scene is, luckily for the billions, 'a bit' brighter and broader than the one Rex tells of and sees as the truth. To the believer, the notion that the NT is primarily written to the saints, changes nothing, he still knows what God requires of him as minimum;
  Micah 6:8 He has showed you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
  God Bless

  Ridiculous.
  You need to brush up on your study with a valid commentary. Throw your JW amateur trash away.
  Rex
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  Refuting (some of) Yardirf's Nonsense

  by Rex B13 in

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  ...and raised us up with him, and seated us with him in the heavenly places, in christ jesus... -eph.

  rev.

  he doesn't go out of love for new york, for he knows nothing about the place.

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  Hi Joel,
  I know that you've read the end of the story. Revelation 21, humanity dwelling with God in the New Heavens and New Earth into eternity. After the millenium, God brings things to their old earthly conclusion, which is it's destruction. Earth and the physical existence is a 'proving ground' of sorts.
  You see, God did not get surprised by Satan's instigating the rebellion of mankind. The whole length of our time here has been scripted from the start. That's why you see Paul referring to 'predestination and preordination' so often.
  Really, in order to understand the implications you have to dismiss the JW heresies for what they are, nonsense.

  Rev. Bil,
  I son't know if I am going to take the time to answer your response. It's so loaded with context twisting and wild assertions that I doubt if you will ever see the point.

  Yadirf,
  You can't answer so you dodge and weave. Run away little JW, before you have to look squarely at the nonsense you believe in.

  Rex
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  I'm a bad American

  by Bendrr in

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  i picked up this essay on another site and wanted to share it with y'all.

  not sure of the original writer, so i'll credit www.thebigshow.com for posting it.. ---.

  i'm a bad american.

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  Socialist Liberal Seeker, ;-)
  The last time I looked, Ford, GM and many others were in fierce competition with foreign manufacturers who are supplemented by their own governments and guess what? Ford, GM, etc employ people who are productive in society, unlike your average baby factory and crack ho.
  Rex
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  PUT YOUR NAMES HERE

  by Rex B13 in

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  hi gang,.

  man, what a brouhaha we have going on now, eh?

  i wonder if all could please reply to this post with your list of log-on names.

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  Hi Gang,
  Man, what a brouhaha we have going on now, eh? I wonder if all could please reply to this post with your list of log-on names. It would sure make it less confusing to know WHO I happen to be offending before I go about offending them in a manner not befitting the offendee......;-)
  Let's see, on here I am "Rex B13", on H2O, I used to be known as "Worldly Witness" and "Godfroy De Bouillion, Knight of the Temple".
  If you don't come clean now, your reputation will forever be trash even amongst us disgusting, intolerant, fundy Xtians.
  Rex, an equal opportunity offender
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  which bible do you find most unbiased...?

  by Richie in

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  a question to those who are still interested in reading the bible; which translation would you prefer?

  the nwt or another - and if so, which one?.

  :* richie

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  Sorry Willie,
  The scrolls in dispute were never cannon in the Hebrew scriptures. That's why they were 'removed' at the time of the reformation. None of them matched up to the criteria set for inspiration.
  Rex
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  I'm a bad American

  by Bendrr in

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  i picked up this essay on another site and wanted to share it with y'all.

  not sure of the original writer, so i'll credit www.thebigshow.com for posting it.. ---.

  i'm a bad american.

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  A little bit of offense from me:
  I read recently of one of our numerous welfare, baby makers: #18 just popped out, several sperm-donors spread amongst all of the kids, she won't get the tubes tied......
  Paid for by you and I. All too common in the wonderful land of excessive private 'rights' that makes the 'common good' a farce. I can barely afford the two young adults that I fathered, both financially and spiritually.
  Then when some of the 18 get in trouble it will be the fault of 'the system'. If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny. How about as "strike three and your out" law for welfare moms? Mandatory operation!

  Rex